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Z690 Chipset Motherboards and Alder Lake CPU

There's also these two very interesting videos I came across. One is an in-depth interview with Pat Gelsinger on Alder Lake and Intel's plans for the near future and the other is about Intel's new Ribbonfet technology, which supposedly continues Moore's Law.


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Intel indeed seems to be coming back... this is unlike when Apple abandoned IBM for Intel... IBM never really came back in terms of delivering leadership mainstream hardware to the ecosystem. But Intel this around time seems to be fighting hard to keep x86 as relevant as possible, if not the performance leader. Pat Gelsinger has been a ball of invigoration. But AMD is quite strong and potent.

Additionally, Mediatek and other ARM vendors seem to be very interested in entering the ring (https://www.techradar.com/news/mediatek-reportedly-wants-to-make-chips-for-arm-based-windows-pcs), as soon as the alleged Windows on ARM exclusitivity agreement between Microsoft and Qualcomm expires (https://www.xda-developers.com/qualcomm-exclusivity-deal-microsoft-windows-on-arm/).

So not only will Intel face competition from AMD and Apple, it will have to deal with ARM vendors as well. So there is intense pressure on it (from its ecosystem partners like Dell, Lenovo, et. al) to deliver on time. Competition is a great thing. So in a few years, it will be very interesting to see if there are laptops/PCs on the market from the likes of Dell, Lenovo, HP and others that have AMD, Intel, Qualcomm, and/or Mediatek chips inside.

So I am very interested to see where AMD and Intel take the x86 platform... Ribbonfet, 3d stacking, tiles, chiplets, and so on... I'm also interested in how Apple scales up its Apple Silicon platform, how many cpu cores and gpu cores it will add to its SoC. Some very interesting years are ahead of us!
energy23 said:
Has Intel made any hints of making a flagship 1x900k CPU in either Alder Lake or Raptor Lake form with ONLY p-cores? They've made the 12400k but it's low end....
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The only processors I’ve heard of that will have golden cove only cores (no E cores) with more than 6 cores are the upcoming Sapphire Rapids Xeons. Other than that the x900 chips that are upcoming in Alder Lake and Raptor Lake are said to include Gracemont cores also.
 
dehjomz said:
The only processors I’ve heard of that will have golden cove only cores (no E cores) with more than 6 cores are the upcoming Sapphire Rapids Xeons. Other than that the x900 chips that are upcoming in Alder Lake and Raptor Lake are said to include Gracemont cores also.
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Does this mean that we are likely to have the same success with Sapphire Rapids Xeons as we seem (so far) to be having with Alder Lake?
 
ckrueger99 said:
Does this mean that we are likely to have the same success with Sapphire Rapids Xeons as we seem (so far) to be having with Alder Lake?
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Hard to predict the future, and whether newer intel nodes will be supported on macOS that’s not explicitly written for them, but I don’t see why not. macOS wasn’t explicitly written for Rocket lake or alder lake, yet it loads and is stable.

The pain points will be whether and how the new Xeon platform (ACPI implementation) will interact with macOS, issues related to power management, sleep/wake, and so on. But if alder lake runs on macOS then Sapphire Rapids should as well. It’s all x86.

The main issue with alder lake and macOS is the OS wasn’t written with assumptions of a hybrid x86 core architecture… macOS assumes each x86 core is the same. Adding Gracemont to the mix breaks this assumption. So macOS doesn’t expect to see for example 12 cores and 20 threads. So it panics.

Only way to know whether and how well Sapphire Rapids works with macOS is to test. But if it works well, and motherboards are widely available for Sapphire Rapids, theoretically someone could build a hackintosh that destroys the 2019 Mac Pro, for probably less money than either the 2019 Mac Pro or the upcoming one rumored to be released in late 2022.
 
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ckrueger99 said:
Does this mean that we are likely to have the same success with Sapphire Rapids Xeons as we seem (so far) to be having with Alder Lake?
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On another forum someone is trying to boot OS X on an Ice Lake Xeon since September… He's getting closer and closer but has not yet succeeded. :banghead: And, to be frank, I expected the same kind of enduring pain for Alder Lake.
Do NOT expect that Sapphire Rapids will go easily…
 
etorix said:
On another forum someone is trying to boot OS X on an Ice Lake Xeon since September… He's getting closer and closer but has not yet succeeded. :banghead: And, to be frank, I expected the same kind of enduring pain for Alder Lake.
Do NOT expect that Sapphire Rapids will go easily…
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Watching what you guys have done here, I'd says it's possible. But, your success has been largely due to many great minds working together. Probably much harder to achieve these numbers on an expensive platform that fewer of you will be able/willing to afford.
 
ckrueger99 said:
Watching what you guys have done here, I'd says it's possible. But, your success has been largely due to many great minds working together. Probably much harder to achieve these numbers on an expensive platform that fewer of you will be able/willing to afford.
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Group buy? LOL
 
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trismile said:
Похоже, стоит попробовать i5-12600.
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It will amazing if Intel add Non-E-Cores CPU in it product assortment. i9-12850K, for example. 8 (HT) +0 will the best buy :)
 
Hello @CaseySJ I hope everything is going fine in your build! Your thread is going crazy everybody following it. :)

I have a question if you allow me please. Would a flashed Titan Ridge work on my Z77X-UD5H hackintosh? If not, do you know any PCI E expansion cards of modern USB3.1/USB 3.2 and USB-C that would work on my motherboard? Very sorry for the off topic question. Have a wonderful day! Cheers
 
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