Z690 Chipset Motherboards and Alder Lake CPU

[m4rk0]

Correct I never put my computer to sleep.

If you used CCC it would use APFS Snapshots to copy the data which would include any corruption already on the Adata drive. Also Samsung drives have issues with MacOS as far as I know.

Removed both SSDs (Adata & Samsung) and reinstalled everything: lock-up after 6 hours.

 

[zilma-zaz]

Removed both SSDs (Adata & Samsung) and reinstalled everything: lock-up after 6 hours.

Can/have you run Prime95 Small FFT for an hour or so in Windows to confirm the machine is stable?

If that passes try an hour of Prime95 on Blend mode. If both those pass your system itself is most likely (you really need to do several hours of both to validate) stable and it would have to be either a BIOS or disk related issue.

I left my machine running Prime95 overnight the first time the corruption happened thinking it was maybe Ram or some motherboard instability. Got zero crashes, which is why I started looking at the disk.

Oh one last thing, Safari 16 can cause lockups so don't use that.

 

[m4rk0]

Can/have you run Prime95 Small FFT for an hour or so in Windows to confirm the machine is stable?

I run OCCT for 1 hour, several times, and it proved to be stable. Ran several sessions of Memtest86 400% to 600%, all of the tests from #1 to #13, again several times and it was stable. Ran several sessions of TM5 with anta777 profile (which is said to be extremely effective) and had zero errors all of the times. Went through 100 runs of Linpack Xtreme. All of these tests validated extreme OCs with tight timings, too. On the other hand, macOS locked even with XMP profile OFF and no changes in BIOS after the usual mandatory settings. I am so annoyed.

If that passes try an hour of Prime95 on Blend mode. If both those pass your system itself is most likely (you really need to do several hours of both to validate) stable and it would have to be either a BIOS or disk related issue.

I'll try some other tests but I doubt I will find anything different.

I left my machine running Prime95 overnight the first time the corruption happened thinking it was maybe Ram or some motherboard instability. Got zero crashes, which is why I started looking at the disk.

Sure, it turned out to be effective in your situation, but I just reinstalled everything earlier this morning... what the hell.

Oh one last thing, Safari 16 can cause lockups so don't use that.

Been having lock ups way before Safari 16 came out :/ since the mid of Aug

Thank you sir

 

[CaseySJ]

I run OCCT for 1 hour, several times, and it proved to be stable. Ran several sessions of Memtest86 400% to 600%, all of the tests from #1 to #13, again several times and it was stable. Ran several sessions of TM5 with anta777 profile (which is said to be extremely effective) and had zero errors all of the times. Went through 100 runs of Linpack Xtreme. All of these tests validated extreme OCs with tight timings, too. On the other hand, macOS locked even with XMP profile OFF and no changes in BIOS after the usual mandatory settings. I am so annoyed.


I'll try some other tests but I doubt I will find anything different.


Sure, it turned out to be effective in your situation, but I just reinstalled everything earlier this morning... what the hell.


Been having lock ups way before Safari 16 came out :/ since the mid of Aug

Thank you sir

It's been a few days since my last reply, which means I've probably forgotten many of the key details. So:

• You are running into macOS crashes on a fresh install?
• You are using a Gigabyte Z490 Vision G?
• Which version of BIOS on the Vision G?

Finally, let's take a look at your entire EFI folder as follows:

• Make a copy of the EFI folder
• Inside the copy, edit config.plist and remove serial numbers from PlatformInfo
• Compress the EFI folder and post the Zip file

 

[zilma-zaz]

I run OCCT for 1 hour, several times, and it proved to be stable. Ran several sessions of Memtest86 400% to 600%, all of the tests from #1 to #13, again several times and it was stable. Ran several sessions of TM5 with anta777 profile (which is said to be extremely effective) and had zero errors all of the times. All of these tests validated extreme OCs with tight timings, too. On the other hand, macOS locked even with XMP profile OFF and no changes in BIOS after the usual mandatory settings. I am so annoyed.

Yeah OCCT is fine, it uses similar algos to P95 anyway for the CPU / Ram tests. You can rule out CPU / Mobo / Ram / PSU right away.

All you have left is GPU, Disk, BIOS, or least likely IMO an incapability with OC and your chipset/mobo I say least likely since your board is basically part identical to mine and many other boards.

GPU is a nightmare to test, I mean you could try Furmark, but I really doubt it would be this unless the GPU is somehow tripping the PSU which can cause lockups. Funnily enough spikey workloads is more likely to cause this than consistent power draw like in FurMark, but that is really hard to emulate.

Disk... well only way to test this is by elimination thanks to Monterey / macOS. If you can get a hold of a SATA drive even a really small one just to test the system I would give that a go that would completely identify if it is a controller/chipset issue from the M.2 drives you are using since SATA is always AHCI to macOS regardless of the controller on the drive.

BIOS, this is worst case since you can really only just try each one and see what happens saying that I have used F2, F3a, F3, and F20b on my board all with zero issues and the BIOS are pretty standardized now days.

I'll try some other tests but I doubt I will find anything different.

I agree I doubt you will.

Sure, it turned out to be effective in your situation, but I just reinstalled everything earlier this morning... what the hell.

Yes this kind of problem is extremely frustrating.

Been having lock ups way before Safari 16 came out :/ since the mid of Aug

If you are using Safari at all I would just stop though, even running in the background I found it could cause lockups. I can't confirm exactly when this issue started, it was around Aug/Sept for me but that is just when I started doing Testing for the work project I am doing and it took me a couple of weeks to work out that it was Safari causing this. Since then I found a lot of threads by real Mac users reporting this issue.

 

[MbryMbry]

Hi there,
I have a 13900KF but I was not able to have my Alpine Ridge (custom firmware) working on a Prime B660M (black void, no POST when a device is connected to the Alpine Ridge.) I want to try a new build with a proper Z690 instead but I must be sure the thunderbolt card works fine with it. Is there anyone running that card on Z690 without issues?

 

[PR99]

Hi there,
I have a 13900KF but I was not able to have my Alpine Ridge (custom firmware) working on a Prime B660M (black void, no POST when a device is connected to the Alpine Ridge.) I want to try a new build with a proper Z690 instead but I must be sure the thunderbolt card works fine with it. Is there anyone running that card on Z690 without issues?

I'm running an ASUS Z790 board with the 13900KF along with the ASUS thunderbolt 4 card with no issues so far.

 

[MbryMbry]

I'm running an ASUS Z790 board with the 13900KF along with the ASUS thunderbolt 4 card with no issues so far.

Nice, thank you! Quite an expensive motherboard

 

[zilma-zaz]

Hi there,
I have a 13900KF but I was not able to have my Alpine Ridge (custom firmware) working on a Prime B660M (black void, no POST when a device is connected to the Alpine Ridge.) I want to try a new build with a proper Z690 instead but I must be sure the thunderbolt card works fine with it. Is there anyone running that card on Z690 without issues?

Might be redundant, but did you try the upper PCIE 4x slot on that board? TB3/4 cards are all 4x and wouldn't work on the lower 1x slot. Otherwise it's likely a power delivery issue, I would guess most Z690/Z790 with the additional power connector would work.

 

[MbryMbry]

Might be redundant, but did you try the upper PCIE 4x slot on that board? TB3/4 cards are all 4x and wouldn't work on the lower 1x slot. Otherwise it's likely a power delivery issue, I would guess most Z690/Z790 with the additional power connector would work.

It was on the correct slot, and the card was recognized correctly in macOS. It was just not POST at all with a device connected to it. I guess a new motherboard will do the trick.