Seasonic's solution for cable clutter/poor airflow in ATX builds

[trs96]

Looks like a huge amount of work went into this project. These case/psu/fan systems are not available for sale yet but you can look at all the high resolution pics to see what they'll be offering. I'm really impressed.

SYNCRO Q7

SYNCRO Q7

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Here's a few of the top "pics" of the Syncro. Click on the picture to see how "Mac Pro" clean it looks.

 

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[trs96]

Now if Apple would sell us an ATX motherboard with a 12 Core M1X SoC on it that supports AMD dedicated graphics cards, I've got my next build for the next 10 years or so.

 

[scottkendall]

It looks very nice but I would be worried about that circuit board heating due to all the power it is passing and the extra impedance heat generated by the extra splices in the wires. I only have three wires coming from my PSU, the motherboard power, the GPU power, and the TB3 power that technically I do not need. So I do not have the mess of wires that many others may have.

 

[trs96]

It looks very nice but I would be worried about that circuit board heating due to all the power it is passing and the extra impedance heat generated by the extra splices in the wires.

This is made by Seasonic. I think that you can trust them to do the proper research and testing before bringing a product to market. Ask @pastrychef about the quality of the PSUs that they make. He has direct experience with their products. They make high quality PSUs and cables that rarely ever have problems that plague low quality PSUs. I've used them myself for nearly ten years now.

 

[pastrychef]

Yeah. Seasonic makes good stuff.

I think it's time the PC industry updated the ATX, mATX, and ITX motherboard layouts. With graphics cards commonly taking up three PCI-e slots now, mATX motherboards are essentially reduced to ITX and ATX reduced to mATX. It makes no sense. Along with a layout update, the connectors and location of the connectors need updating. Dual 8-pin EPS connectors to power CPUs? Tripple 8-pin PCI connectors to power video cards? All this contribute to messy builds.

 

[scottkendall]

This is made by Seasonic. I think that you can trust them to do the proper research and testing before bringing a product to market. Ask @pastrychef about the quality of the PSUs that they make. He has direct experience with their products. They make high quality PSUs and cables that rarely ever have problems that plague low quality PSUs. I've used them myself for nearly ten years now.

My comment had nothing to do with the quality. Just a simple observation that they are adding a bunch of splices to the wires. Most of the time when clips/plugs/etc. are added they are not copper. They instead are some kind of crimped on steel/aluminum or some other kind of metal. When you place two different kinds of metals in contact with each other and switch back and forth you create impedance/resistance thus creating heat. They do not look like they are doing much about it as the circuit board they have everything plugged into is flat. Maybe the cover of the circuit board that looks like it is plastic is in fact metal and is acting as a Heatsync that would greatly help with the heat.

 

[scottkendall]

Yeah. Seasonic makes good stuff.

I think it's time the PC industry updated the ATX, mATX, and ITX motherboard layouts. With graphics cards commonly taking up three PCI-e slots now, mATX motherboards are essentially reduced to ITX and ATX reduced to mATX. It makes no sense. Along with a layout update, the connectors and location of the connectors need updating. Dual 8-pin EPS connectors to power CPUs? Tripple 8-pin PCI connectors to power video cards? All this contribute to messy builds.

My board only takes one 8pin that is neatly routed around the back in the lip of the case I could likely fit a second. While it is advised not to use the daisy-chained 8pin for the second GPU 8pin I do, and have not noticed an issue. I also use one wire with two 8pin plugs for the Thunderbolt 3 but since that is for charging TB3 devices only I could lose those without any adverse effect on my system. Maybe I am just an exception since I do not use a bunch of HDD or SSD drives and I only have the m.2 drives.

 

[pastrychef]

My board only takes one 8pin that is neatly routed around the back in the lip of the case I could likely fit a second. While it is advised not to use the daisy-chained 8pin for the second GPU 8pin I do, and have not noticed an issue. I also use one wire with two 8pin plugs for the Thunderbolt 3 but since that is for charging TB3 devices only I could lose those without any adverse effect on my system. Maybe I am just an exception since I do not use a bunch of HDD or SSD drives and I only have the m.2 drives.

I'm looking forward to the new motherboard power standard. It's long overdue.

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I'd also like to see them update the PCI-e slot to provide more than 75W. I like the custom slots Apple uses in the current Mac Pro to power their video cards.

 

[trs96]

I would be worried about that circuit board heating due to all the power it is passing and the extra impedance heat generated by the extra splices in the wires.

Have a look at this video. I don't expect it to have any problems with over-heating.

Linus shows where the ventilation holes are on the connect. This is the latest design that's part of latest Syncro Q7 package of case, PSU and cables. The hot air has an escape route out the side. Take a look.