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Anyone tried RX 5700 (XT) with latest public beta?

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I know, that's why I use them.

Having iGPU active and a GPU is no problem at all.

With them active is the software using them instead of the card. Have you tested iMacPro to see if it decodes with GPU only?
 
With them active is the software using them instead of the card. Have you tested iMacPro to see if it decodes with GPU only?

Every iMac that you can buy has integrated GPU and discrete GPU. It uses the RX 5700 or you can select which one to use.

That limitations in premiere pro have nothing to do with your Mac. Thats just how premiere runs, also on PC.

If you have a iGPU and render a video with the matching settings for hardware encoding, your time needed drops to 30%.

But if you have no iGPU premiere pro will always render I'm software out of the box (without plug-ins, there is one that works great with Nvidia but not so much with AMD)

If you want to have the best performance in video editing on Mac you should simply avoid premiere pro.

I'm a Windows guy and because of the same reasons I switched to DaVinci Resolve and never looked back.
 
Premiere Pro doesn't use the GPU to encode Videos at all.
The Only GPU Premiere can use for encoding are Intels iGPUs. No Nvidia or AMD is supported by Premieres Encoder.


@kabauterman,

This is no longer true, Adobe CC 2020 Apps for Mac are now optimised for Apples Metal 2 API/Framework.
They list which GPU's they support in the "Adobe Premiere Pro system requirements" web page :-


Go to to the bottom of the page and look at the list of "Recommended graphics cards for Adobe Premiere Pro" then look at the sub section "Mac Metal" it's basically the same list of GPU's that Apple uses for Mojave and Catalina compatibility.

Although 5700 GPU's are not listed they do work it's just that Adobe (surprise surprise) have not updated their web page yet, probably because 5700 support in MacOS Catalina is still considered beta at the moment.

Cheers
Jay
 
@kabauterman,

This is no longer true, Adobe CC 2020 Apps for Mac are now optimised for Apples Metal 2 API/Framework.
They list which GPU's they support in the "Adobe Premiere Pro system requirements" web page :-


Go to to the bottom of the page and look at the list of "Recommended graphics cards for Adobe Premiere Pro" then look at the sub section "Mac Metal" it's basically the same list of GPU's that Apple uses for Mojave and Catalina compatibility.

Although 5700 GPU's are not listed they do work it's just that Adobe (surprise surprise) have not updated their web page yet, probably because 5700 support in MacOS Catalina is still considered beta at the moment.

Cheers
Jay

the Compute GPU Support has nothing to do with actual hardware accelerated Video rendering.

The Compute Engine (CUDA, OpenCL, Metal) used GPUs since Years for Computing Effects in your Project, this works for Color Grading or Transition Effects and so on (marked with a little symbol in the effects panel). I think CUDA was there since CC 15 afaik.

But other from that Premiere Pro doesn't use the GPUs for either decoding (what is a huge pain in the ass for h.264 or h.265 timeline performance without Proxies) or for encoding aka rendering the final video.

Both is just hardware accelerated if you have a Intel UHD 630 iGPU in your CPU.

Since people asked if the GPU is used for Video Rendering it is still a big no.

FinalCut and DaVinci Resolve make full use of the GPU and thats also why exporting is much much faster on them compared to Premiere Pro.
 
I'am also having similar results between the two, but only in GB5.
I have the two cards in the same system.
The RX 5700 XT is on the PCIe Slot-1 (16x)
The RX 590 is on the PCIe Slot-2 (8x)
The most strange thing is that the Maximum Frequency registered by GB5 in OpenCL with the 5700 XT is only 875 MHz.
I think this benchmark is broken or needs upgrade, since in all other tests (Luxmark, Cinebench, Unigine and windows games) the 5700 XT performs a lot more.

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Hmm, I got ~ 49K on Sapphire RX 5700 not XT.
 

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I know, that's why I use them.

Having iGPU active and a GPU is no problem at all.
Interesting you said that because I can no longer run my system with the IGPU active since I started using my 5700xt. I'm using latest WEG and the agdpmod=pikeraboot argument.
 
Interesting you said that because I can no longer run my system with the IGPU active since I started using my 5700xt. I'm using latest WEG and the agdpmod=pikeraboot argument.

If you run WEG it's very important to use the right system definition because WEG uses the CPU Configuration of the choosen System Definition to choose the right iGPU Settings.

If you use a System Definition for a Mac without a iGPU it will not work.

the iGPU even works worse if you choose the wrong one for the series of CPU you have.

For example:

I'm running a 9700K, if I choose 18,3 it works just "sort of" with the iGPU, 18,3 havn't had this CPU Series, and I get artefacts.

If I use 19,1, what is an iMac that can also have this series of CPU with iGPU, it works like it should.
 
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