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[SUCCESS] Gigabyte Designare Z390 (Thunderbolt 3) + i7-9700K + AMD RX 580

AlexD said:
@CaseySJ
Thank you very much. I really want to send all the kudos to Gigabyte Taiwan HQ team. There are really true professionals working there, who was very interested in helping me and potentially other people in solving this. And they did it.

They instantly found the same displays, took it to their lab, wrote custom firmware, performed all tests – all with extensive and in-depth comments and reports to me directly. Every single day. That is the most impressive thing I've seen in a while from a tech company!

Unfortunately, there's another and way less positive side of this story. And it is about Intel.

As I been told, current workaround with custom firmware is not official and goes against Intel plans in regards of Titan Ridge.

Basically, Intel don't want to let any Titan Ridge controller to work in Legacy Mode, as they prefer to have it in Native Mode only.

That may be only the reason that Intel may decline their requiests to sign these custom firmware binaries.

But I also worked really hard on this and obtained the contacts at Intel who will potentially help Gigabyte with this requests. Now they are already communicating and I really believe for the successful outcome of this collaboration.

P.S.: Our guess about Apple using dual Thunderbolt controllers in their most recent products were absolutely correct.
They did it intentionally in order to provide complete and full support to any generations of Thunderbolt devices (1, 2 and 3). As Alpine Ridge controller is able to work and switch to Legacy Mode, while needed, when Titan Ridge isn't.

So, that explains everything for me now. Apple probably had a consultations with Intel, before starting the design and manufacturing process. And they were probably told about these limitations and were advised to place both controllers to work in pair.

So, if Gigabyte did the same and just added Alpine Ridge chip next to Titan Ridge. In this case we'd received complete Thunderbolt support on our systems. The cost of the chip is around $30-$40. Which is not that big.

But anyways, we have what we have now.

I'll keep you guys updated once I'll get more information about this. Stay tuned!
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Wow man! It's like I'm reading a dream but it's true! You've come so far and impressive is such an understatement. I agree with @CaseySJ they should send you the first beta for being "that guy" who pushed the limits. Amazing stuff! Can't wait! Thanks so much @AlexD in advance! Monument should be built in your name once this rom hits our mobos. :headbang::headbang::headbang:
 
CaseySJ, just wanted to say Thank you! :clap:
I tried installing the system for a whole day yesterday without any luck and then I got to this guide and finally made this thing working. Comparing to getting the z77mx-d3h th to work, this is super complex.
Config is z390 Designare, 8700, rx580, evo 970 nvme for system.
Also, got my Apollo 8p working with Akitio T3T adapter.

Just wanted to share workarounds for catches that I've got into:
-Format to APFS if installing to nvme drive, otherwise installer won't work after first reboot.
-rx580 had no video output with CMS disabled, had to update bios both in MB and VGA.
 
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CaseySJ said:
The Z390 Designare seems to have really high quality DACs and power regulation for audio. I'm seeing 96KHz sampling rates for the DAC that feeds the rear headphone jack. So I've been wearing my Sennheiser and Grado headphones regularly and for somewhat long stretches with no static or any other audio artifacts at all.

Because you're driving external speakers, which audio output jack are you using? Are the speakers self-powered or are you going through a preamp/amp? Have you tried a different pair of speakers?
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No it's an external audio card, I'm asking because it doesn't happen on Windows.
 
SillyFish said:
CaseySJ, just wanted to say Thank you! :clap:
I tried installing the system for a whole day yesterday without any luck and then I got to this guide and finally made this thing working. Comparing to getting the z77mx-d3h th to work, this is super complex.
Config is z390 Designare, 8700, rx580, evo 970 nvme for system.
Also, got my Apollo 8p working with Akitio T3T adapter.

Just wanted to share workarounds for catches that I've got into:
-Format to APFS if installing to nvme drive, otherwise installer won't work after first reboot.
-rx580 had no video output with CMS disabled, had to update bios both in MB and VGA.
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Glad to hear it!

By the way, are you using a Sapphire Pulse RX 580?

And if so, did you update VBIOS in Windows using ATI Win Flash? Which version of VBIOS worked?
 
CaseySJ said:
@manfriday

3 suggestions (after checking your BIOS as suggested by htw7448 above):
  1. Rebuild kernel cache as described here.
  2. In BIOS, enable Above 4G Decoding.
  3. Check whether you have OsxAptioFix2Drv-free2000 in CLOVER/driversUEFI64 folder and “slide=0” in config.plist Boot arguments.
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I had tried all of those things, but none of it worked.
I did get myself back in a working state, though I am still not entirely sure how things went pear-shaped to begin with.
It seemed to have something to do with the Alpine-Ridge Thunderbolt card.
I had reset the CMOS numerous times during this process and it never seemed to help much.
I pulled out the T-Bolt card and reset the CMOS, and I was once again able to boot up without issues.
Added the card back in, and things were OK, until I changed a Thunderbolt setting.. Then it went to crap again.

Eventually I managed to get the Thunderbolt card back in, configured and everything is working. Time will tell if it sticks, or if this a result of using a "non supported" card.. The GC-Alpine ridge technically supports the z370 boards, but not the z390s.

The only thing that is giving me a hard time now is the computer won't shut down properly. Instead of shutting down, it reboots.
 
My Build
Z390 DESIGNARE |  i9 9900K |  Vega 56 8GB
manfriday said:
I had tried all of those things, but none of it worked.
I did get myself back in a working state, though I am still not entirely sure how things went pear-shaped to begin with.
it seemed to have something to do with the Alpine-Ridge thunderbolt card.
I had reset the CMOS numerous times during this process and it never seemed to help much.
I pulled out the T-Bolt card and reset the CMOS and I was once again able to boot up without issues.
Added the card back in, and things were ok, until I changed a Thunderbolt setting.. Then it went to crap again.

Eventually I managed to get the thunderbolt card back in, configured and everything is working. Time will tell if it sticks, or if this a result of using a "non supported" card.. The GC-Alpine ridge technically supports the z370 boards, but not the z390s.

only thing that is giving me a hard time now is the computer wont shut down properly. Instead of shutting down it reboots.
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When you "changed a Thunderbolt setting" on the GC-Alpine Ridge, did you do this from Windows? From what I understand of these Add-in-Cards (AICs), Windows is necessary to initialize them.

If you do a full shutdown (which includes unplugging computer from the wall) you may need to run Windows again before the card will reappear in Mac OS. I would suggest testing this theory so that you are aware of this issue (if it is an issue).

Regarding shutdown, please see my post here:
https://www.tonymacx86.com/threads/...raphics-or-no-hdmi.264751/page-6#post-1898990
 
I am stuck!

I put in a new 2TB HDD as I want to use my 250GB SSD (that hackintosh Mojave is running off of) for a new PC build...and i cant transfer it! is there any way without third party things like super duper! or payed ccc? I am creating disk image which is taking an hour. A clean install isn't working, and I have NO idea why...

Thanks in advance,
~Turbo

EDIT:
I've never been stumped by something like this before...I made iOS jailbreak tweaks that you probably used, but I cant transfer to a new hard drive. What is going on here?! It's driving me nuts 22390u290t8@$%#T!!
 
My Build
Z390 M GAMING |  i7 9700K |  GeForce Other
tdcam said:
Just installed a Planar 5K Monitor, and it's working perfectly with sound with the DisplayPort output on the Vega 64. Thanks again for the build guide!

Its rated at 5120 x 2880 QQHD, but About This Mac says 27-inch (3840 x 2160).

https://www.planar.com/products/desktop-touch-screen-monitors/24-inch/ix2790/
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YES!! I've been waiting for someone to buy this thing!
  • How is the build quality? Aluminum housing and stand?
  • Any dead pixels? I've heard that Planar might be using B-stock panels.
  • Is there a small camera cutout in the middle of the top bezel? I've heard (yes, again) that there might be an empty cutout. Apple uses it for a FaceTime camera, but Planar leaves it hollow.
Regarding "About this Mac", please see below image from a real Mac Mini 2018 connected via Thunderbolt 3 to an LG 5K UltraFine display:
  • Built-in UHD 630 is driving the 5K display
  • About this Mac shows 5K resolution
  • System Information --> Displays/Monitors shows 4K resolution (maybe it's just doubling the "UI Looks Like" resolution without regard to actual full resolution)

LG5K on Mac Mini.png
 
rfoxviola said:
I am stuck!

I put in a new 2TB HDD as I want to use my 250GB SSD (that hackintosh Mojave is running off of) for a new PC build...and i cant transfer it! is there any way without third party things like super duper! or payed ccc? I am creating disk image which is taking an hour. A clean install isn't working, and I have NO idea why...

Thanks in advance,
~Turbo

EDIT:
I've never been stumped by something like this before...I made iOS jailbreak tweaks that you probably used, but I cant transfer to a new hard drive. What is going on here?! It's driving me nuts 22390u290t8@$%#T!!
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Several questions/comments come to mind:
  • Were you able to format the new 2TB HDD using Disk Utility? Does it show up in Finder?
  • Carbon Copy Cloner (CCC) has a 30-day trial period. I'm not sure if any of the features are restricted.
  • Have you tried the free Clonezilla app?
  • Do you have the "Change SAT0 to SATA" patch in ACPI section of config.plist?
 
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