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End Of MacOS on Intel?

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Midphase said:
Even if Apple released brand new machines this week that used non-Intel CPU's, it would still take close to a decade before they stop supporting their current Intel line. And who the hell knows where we'll be in a decade software and hardware wise? For all we know we'll all be using Google terminals by then and doing everything on the cloud.

I am amazed at the degree of alarm on these forums, this is nonsensical.
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Having lived through Apple's transitions from Motorola 68K > PowerPC > Intel; in hindsight, I'd say that these transitions happened significantly more quickly than I'd initially expected them to. In my opinion, user thirst for the latest & greatest hardware and software drove that.
 
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oadesign said:
Having lived through Apple's transitions from Motorola 68K > PowerPC > Intel; in hindsight, I'd say that these transitions happened significantly more quickly than I'd initially expected them to. In my opinion, user thirst for the latest & greatest hardware and software drove that.
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I think the fear is that this isn't going to be the latest and greatest merely the latest. 68k>PPC>Intel each new arch was an obvious step forward compared to the old. The rumors of going to arm? Well a lot of people including myself don't see it. I just don't think there will be any performance increase from the process.
 
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I think the fear is that this isn't going to be the latest and greatest merely the latest. 68k>PPC>Intel each new arch was an obvious step forward compared to the old. The rumors of going to arm? Well a lot of people including myself don't see it. I just don't think there will be any performance increase from the process.
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I have to agree that in the higher end iMac and Mac Pro lines that professionals use, the performance would greatly suffer from whatever ARM based chip they could produce by then (2020). Here's what I think Apple may do to smooth out the transition to using their own ARM based processors throughout the Mac desktop lineup. Macbooks and MBPs should have no problem running on Apple designed ARM chips. The first to transition will likely be the Macbook Air, soon to be called the iBook ? Maybe iOSBook ?

If you look at their recent use of T1 and T2 co-processors in the MBP and iMac Pro you can get an idea of what may happen. I strongly believe they will start the transition by having an Intel CPU and an ARM chip both installed in iMac Pros and Mac Pros (maybe even a new Mac Mini?) that can share the tasks of running macOS programs and iOS apps at the same time. ARM chips are dominating the phone and tablet markets because they consume little power and run cooler. They completely outperform anything Intel does in that class of processors. It should be very easy to incorporate them into an iMac Pro or Mac Pro alongside an Intel CPU.

In this scenario, Mac desktop users can run things like FCP and Logic Pro and still have access to any apps that can run on a phone or tablet. This would make the transition much less painful for Mac users. The iOS developers should all be happy as their markets will increase and profits too. This makes sense and I hope it will happen, rather than a quick, clean break from Intel on the desktop and a complete reliance on just ARM based, Apple designed chips. We'll have to wait and see.
 
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oadesign said:
Having lived through Apple's transitions from Motorola 68K > PowerPC > Intel; in hindsight, I'd say that these transitions happened significantly more quickly than I'd initially expected them to. In my opinion, user thirst for the latest & greatest hardware and software drove that.
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I suppose it could be like their removal of headphone jacks from Iphones, which came abruptly and irritatingly early to my sense.
 
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SapphireHarp said:
I suppose it could be like their removal of headphone jacks from Iphones, which came abruptly and irritatingly early to my sense.
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I have the feeling many don't see the possibility of such an change. Imagine a Macbook with 20+ Hours of battery life. That would be a massive step forward. Or imagine having TV OS on your Mac just like the front row feature on old Mac OS versions. Also game support could be huge. Imagine developers making games for TV os, Mac OS and IOS all at once. This could become the most profitable platform and even outperform stuff like a ps4 or Windows. All at once could be the wrong way but what would be wrong about having two processors for Pro products and single ARM for low budget machines like entry macbook pros, MacBooks or airs. Also the Price might profit from this. I really look forward to this. And still I hope Intel kind of stay relevant for at least 5 Years. this would mean around 10 years of Hackintosh support minimum :D
 

This video is super misleading, right? What % of BS am I looking at here?
 
wallace82 said:

This video is super misleading, right? What % of BS am I looking at here?
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Apple has just announced today that by 2020...
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Apple hasn't announced anything about this. It was a Bloomberg story from unamed informants who would not be identified. The same rumors have been around since 2012.

He puts words in the title like Death to Hackintosh, in a huge font on the thumbnail, just to sound more dramatic and get more views. Because Apple could begin a transition to their own chips by 2020 doesn't mean that your Hackintosh would stop working then. Macs built before 2020 with Intel chips still have to be supported after that date. Apple could start making Macs with both Arm Chips and Intel x86 based CPUs to give you the ability to run both macOS and iOS apps on the same machine. Macbooks and the new iMac Pro already have this combination. (they have T1 and T2 chips that are ARM based). In that scenario, high end Mac desktops would benefit from the best performance Intel chips have to offer along with the ability to use apps from the iOS app store.
 
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trs96 said:
A(they have T1 and T2 chips that are ARM based).
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I have read somewhere that the T* chips are also used to control teh SSD? Could that get an issue for us ?
 
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