[SOLVED] Nvidia GeForce GTX 1080/1070

[WonkeyDonkey]

What we're doing is spreading Apple's platform in a market segment where Apple does not compete anymore. Why would they be against that?

I totally agree. Its kinda spreading the word on behalf of Apple, it does them a favour. Emulation is a good form of flattery too.

 

[littlegreen]

Reading the thread for the last couple days something occurred to me and I thought I'd share:

It absolutely makes no sense for Apple to chase or abrupt the Hackintosh community!
More machines on the market gives them the opportunity to attract more developers, which in turn helps them sell more machines.

It's a flashback to that whole flash-on-the-ipad thing a few years ago (Yes - with all the pun intended!) Steve said "We must be doing something right in terms of attracting developers to our platform" - my best guess is sure - with that installment base - how wouldn't they?

So this whole Pascal thing would have made sense a very long time ago actually. More users means more customers going on the AppStore buying software.

 

[Subsystems]

Exciting times ahead. Thanks in advance for these great news. Cheers!

 

[aarhin]

Now I'm just drooling over my computer waiting for a download link to drop, lol

 

[Dyphen]

So excited!

Though, I haven't set up MacOS yet (been waiting for these drivers). I am curious, should I wait until the drivers are released to set everything up, or is it relatively painless to install new drivers after setting up mac side?

Thanks for any help.

 

[WonkeyDonkey]

So excited!

Though, I haven't set up MacOS yet (been waiting for these drivers). I am curious, should I wait until the drivers are released to set everything up, or is it relatively painless to install new drivers after setting up mac side?

Thanks for any help.

You could do it with integrated graphics then switch when the new drivers arrive.

 

[AlphaFox]

If apple wanted to shut hackintoshes down they could do it quite easily. I don't think they will but you never know, they protect their IP with a vengeance and we are technically in violation of the EULA.

 

[ToddH]

I've been holding off doing a new build because of the lack of Pascal drivers. Looks like it may be time to start planning for that new build.

 

[Wolfie81]

In terms of theory, I see it the slightly differently.

Pro users and high end consumers need powerful PC's and GPU's. Apple's current line does not support the needs of these customers, and hasn't for a long long time. When their (very slow) research demonstrated these customers are getting fed up with Apple, and considering moving to Microsoft, they had to act.

1. Demonstrate a commitment to this market segment by pre announcing lineups, and try to give some faith to users to hold out.
2. Give Nvidia support to this market segment to BUILD Hackintoshes (effectively giving the green light for us). As hack users (and Apple too), our biggest Achilles heel is not the CPU, motherboard, RAM, or SSD, but the GPU power for the past year.

So to stem the haemorrhage to W10 and damage to Apples reputation, they gave us all support. Why? Because they could see it as:

1. Better to keep users on their platform, even if its unofficial, as having customers through some form is better than not having them. These customers (such as myself), go on and buy other Apple products, such as MacBooks, iPhone, iPad etc.. I suspect the Pro and high consumer end is also in this position. The ecosystem strengthens.

2. Any customer moving away from Apple weakens their market position and relevance, and directly increases Windows position, and relevance. Its a duopoly out there. One outcome had a direct opposite effect on another.

Apple did NOT have to give NVIDIA support this early. It is wayyyy too early. If future iMacs and MacPros will have NVIDIA support/products in them, Apple would have announced the drivers (or given NVIDIA to release them) at THAT time in the future, say end of 2017 or at some point in 2018 when the MacPro is released). Its not like these Apple products are going to be released next week. Its months or up to 2 years away.

Giving the green light to release Pascal support is BASICALLY Apple throwing us (hack users) a lifeline, and in some ways trying to say sorry to the high end of Apple power users (to build a hack if they haven't done so yet). Not because they need us (as described, if anything, they still make money off us all, including future pro users turn hack users who are disenchanted with the current pro lineup), but because without a hack community, many users will be angry, frustrated, and upset their loyalty to the brand has been destroyed. They will move to Windows (or already have because until now, Apple and Hackintosh were weak in GPU strength), and as previously mentioned, strengthening their ecosystem, while directly weakening Apples ecosystem.

I am confident the release of NVIDIA drivers (which Im sure were ready to be released by NVIDIA but awaiting Apples direction) and Apples announcement was not a coincidence at all.

Of course the drivers officially support cheese grater MacPro users, but I suspect there aren't many of them left (not as much as Hack users).

 

[fr4nkle]

As part of the minority here with a pair of MacPro 5,1's, and as a long time lurker of this thread, this news mean that I'll probably grab myself a GTX 1070 soon for my home machine that I dual boot for gaming in Windows.

After picking up a pair of stock 2.8GHz Quad Core machines really cheap (ex lease from a school at a price that I couldn't say no to), I've dropped 24GB of RAM in each of them and then for my home machine changed the CPU to a hex-core W3690 @ 3.46GHz, an EVO 500GB SSD for OS and EVO 1TB SSD for music samples/recording/production, another EVO 500GB for Windows 7 gaming (Battlefield 4 & 1, CoD 4 & 5) and finally an ASUS GTX970 with web drivers. The one I use at work I've upgraded to a hex-core W3680 @ 3.33GHz, EVO 500GB SSD for OS and EVO 2TB SSD for video storage, and an EVGA GTX670 that works OTB without web drivers.

Anyhow, looks like I'll drop the GTX1070 into my home machine for better gaming performance, and move the GTX970 to the work machine (keeping the GTX670 as a fallback if anything fails).

Before this I was actually considering building a new gaming PC and going back to one of my MacMini quad cores for music production at home ... reality is that although limited to SATA2 on the MacPro, with the CPU, RAM and GPU upgrades it does a great job for what I use it for.